Talk:Staff and contractors

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    Jimmy Wales

    Should it be noted that Jimmy is indeed not a staff member, and that his omission is not an oversight? I'm sure most viewers (and contributors) have the impression that he is indeed a WMF staff member. -- Zanimum 12:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Talk at Meta?

    Shouldn't this talk page contain a link to a talk page on Meta, where its content can be discussed? Although this page is probably not "written by the community" I think we could provide some useful input at times. // habj 17:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Rename page?

    I'm not really sure why this page is called "Current staff"; I suggest renaming it to simply "Staff". Any other opinions?--Eloquence 21:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Sure, it sounds better and will also look better at the same time :) E 07:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Fellowship recipients

    I think Fellowship recipients ought to be moved to a separate page. Calling them "staff" seems odd and wrong. Thoughts? --MZMcBride 02:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    For now, we've created a Fellowship Recipient Section to this page to list Steven Walling who is being categorized during his year with us as an employee. We're blogging about the recipients and adding their announcements and links to the feed/streams on and Twitter. --Daniel Phelps 22:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC) (talkcontribs)Reply[reply]
    I agree. Also, the UX section ought to be merged into the Tech section (and some positions updated) since there are no longer any "UX programs". guillom 16:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    There is some reorganization to the Tech depts courtesy of the Strategic Plan. We're working on a way to clarify this new organization on the Staff page and should have that updated shortly (within the next 2-3 weeks). --Daniel Phelps 22:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC) (talkcontribs)Reply[reply]

    m:Wikimedia Foundation contractors

    Should the "See also" section include a link to m:Wikimedia Foundation contractors? --MZMcBride 06:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Missing individuals?

    Karen Hyun? --MZMcBride 02:46, 27 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Fellowship recipients as well: --MZMcBride 02:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Edits at Template talk:Staff and contractors

    Hi folks - I've made some edits to the staff and contractors template talk page... Thanks JayWalsh 01:18, 2 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Said in such quiet desperation... :-) --MZMcBride 01:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Box at the bottom of the page

    Currently, the box that is placed at the bottom of this page says (my underline):

    All images are available under the Creative Commons Attribution License or the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. For licensing and other information about any of the images seen on this page, please go to Wikimedia Commons and click on the particular image you would like more information about. Thanks!

    I am somehow puzzled as to how to find those images from between over 13 million others basing on just how they look like... Surely there is an easier way to find them? :-) odder 20:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Hi odder, if you click on that Commons link you will find a category page that consists of only those images. You still have to look, but it's a lot less than 13 million ;) heather walls (talk) 04:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]


    Can we please, please, please get rid of the collapsing? It hides the staff which is supposedly what the page is about, it makes impossible to look for names with a search in the page and it requires a bazillion clicks (even more now that for some reason there's no longer that already well hidden enough "expand all" links). --Nemo 09:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Is there a way to "expand all"? Rjd0060 (talk) 22:53, 1 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    There was, it seems to have disappeared though, not sure if it's something to do with the edits Krinkle early this week though. The Helpful One 01:26, 2 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It seems more likely to do with the jQuery upgrade from earlier this week. The page is now throwing a JavaScript error (viewable in your browser's JavaScript console). I'll ping Krinkle about this. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:59, 2 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thank you. As this is probably not going to be fixed overnight, in the meanwhile I've removed the collapsing. I hope I've not introduced new errors! --Nemo 10:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Krinkle fixed this up now.
    You can append ?showall=1 ( to see the uncollapsed version on-load as well. I kind of agree that the page looks better without the collapsing, but I know that it was a major goal of the redesign to make the page less overwhelming (and I don't have any better ideas for doing so), so I'm not going to fight about it. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:39, 2 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I really like all the people in that leftmost column, and I don't think any of them want to look like the "level boss". There's something really wrong about this layout. Honestly, I don't even know what the rubric would be to be a big enough boss to appear so left-justified :P What is the purpose of displaying the directors here, are they the first line for communication? ... not everything has to be an organogram ;) Just so that I'm not offering criticism and no suggestions, I would prefer that the collapsed departments have a short summary along the lines of: Contact: wikistuff-l; Home page: wmfwiki/Blarghdept; Director: Vale Dictorian; Roster: 2^N employees & a lonely contractor, see more -> AWight (talk) 09:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Show, don't tell. :-) You can edit here. Improve the page. This is a wiki, after all. If you need a testing ground, make your own. You know how. --MZMcBride (talk) 09:35, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I believe the intention behind this was to at least indicate who the heads of department are because previously it was just a jumbled mess. The page currently functions as a rough organisational chart - looking at Engineering for example, Erik is VP, then Rob is Director of Platform, Terry for Features, CT Woo for Technical Operation etc - so the "head" of that sub department is first. Other than that everyone else is simply sorted in alphabetical order, but I'd be interested to see your improvements. Like MZ said, this is a wiki, so please feel free to edit to improve - if there are any problems, your edits can always be undone. Thehelpfulone 13:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It's fine to have some heads on the left, and as long as that's the org structure we have, it makes sense to be honest about it. But let's get rid of the collapsing, so the staff page actually... lists our staff. Any arguments against? AWight (talk) 17:51, 27 November 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    I have no problem with the collapsing but it needs to be more intuitive. "See the team" is not conspicuous enough; this could probably be fixed easily.--Jasper Deng (talk) 22:58, 28 November 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Table of contents

    It really is quite helpful to have a table of contents box on this page. Perhaps Nemo was right. With some work, inclusion of a table of contents box could be made to work here. Removing the numbering, matching the page styling in terms of background color and border, figuring out placement/collapsibility on the page, etc. The hierarchical view is helpful, though. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Of course I'm MediaWiki is right. There's a reason if TOC is the default in MediaWiki. However I won't argue for this any longer, I have User:Nemo_bis/Staff_and_contractors bookmarked and that egotistically works for me. --Nemo 07:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The absence of TOC and the decrease in semantics of the headers seems to get more problematic: now we have to maintain separate pages like Org chart for links to sections, really? --Nemo 03:59, 10 June 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Image aspect ratio consistency

    $ curl -s "" | grep "<img" | grep width | perl -p -i -e 's/^.+<img alt="(.+?)".+?width="(.+?)".+$/\2 \1/' | sort -n | perl -p -i -e 's/^[^\d].+//' | uniq
    79 Dan Higgins
    83 Jake Orlowitz
    98 Chase Pettet
    116 Bahodir Mansurov
    117 Samir Elsharbaty
    127 Filippo Giunchedi
    130 Jonathan Morgan
    131 Juli Matthews of Swagbot
    131 Ryan Kaldari
    133 Erik Zachte
    134 S Page
    136 Yuvaraj Pandian
    138 Andrew Bogott
    139 Faidon Liambotis
    139 Prateek Saxena
    140 Aaron Halfaker
    140 Aaron Schulz
    140 Abigail Ripstra
    140 Adam Baso
    140 Adam Roses Wight
    140 Adele Vrana
    140 Alex Stinson
    140 Alex Wang
    140 Alexandros Kosiaris
    140 Amir Aharoni
    140 Amy Vossbrinck
    140 Andre Klapper
    140 Andrew Garrett
    140 Andrew Otto
    140 Anna Koval
    140 Anna Lantz
    140 Anna Stillwell
    140 Anne Gomez
    140 Antoine Musso
    140 Arda Elmas
    140 Ariel Glenn
    140 Arthur Richards
    140 Asaf Bartov
    140 Brad Jorsch
    140 Brandon Black
    140 Brion Vibber
    140 Bryan Davis
    140 C. Scott Ananian
    140 Caitlin Cogdill
    140 Caitlin Virtue
    140 Carolynne Schloeder
    140 Chad Horohoe
    140 Chip Deubner
    140 Chris Johnson
    140 Chris McMahon
    140 Chris Steipp
    140 Daisy Chen
    140 Dan Andreescu
    140 Dan Foy
    140 Dan Garry
    140 Daniel DeJarnatt
    140 Daniel Duvall
    140 Danny Horn
    140 Dario Taraborelli
    140 David Chan
    140 Dennis Porter
    140 Dmitry Brant
    140 Doreen Dunican
    140 Ed Sanders
    140 Edward Galvez
    140 Elena Hernandez
    140 Elena Tonkovidova
    140 Ellery Wulczyn
    140 Ellie Young
    140 Emily Blanchard
    140 Erica Litrenta
    140 Fabrice Florin
    140 Floor Koudijs
    140 Gabriel Wicke
    140 Gergő Tisza
    140 Globey
    140 Greg Grossmeier
    140 Guillaume Paumier
    140 Haitham Shammaa
    140 Heather Walls
    140 Howie Fung
    140 Jacob Rogers
    140 Jaime Anstee
    140 James Alexander
    140 James Douglas
    140 James Forrester
    140 Jan Eissfeldt
    140 Janet Renteria
    140 Janice Tud
    140 Jared Zimmerman
    140 Jeff Gage
    140 Jeff Green
    140 Jeff Hobson
    140 Jessica Robell
    140 Joel Krauska
    140 Jon Robson
    140 Jonathan Curiel
    140 Jorge Vargas
    140 Kacie Harold
    140 Kaity Hammerstein
    140 Karen Zwicker
    140 Kartik Mistry
    140 Katie Horn
    140 Katy Love
    140 Keegan Peterzell
    140 Kevin Leduc
    140 Kristen Lans
    140 Leila Zia
    140 Lene Gillis
    140 Limayli Huguet
    140 Lynette Logan
    140 Maggie Dennis
    140 Manprit Brar
    140 Marc-André Pelletier
    140 Maria O&#39;Neill
    140 Mark Bergsma
    140 Mark Holmquist
    140 Marti Johnson
    140 Maryana Pinchuk
    140 María Cruz
    140 Matt Flaschen
    140 Matthias Mullie
    140 Max Semenik
    140 May Galloway
    140 Megan Hernandez
    140 Michael Guss
    140 Michelle Nguyen
    140 Michelle Paulson
    140 Moiz Syed
    140 Monte Hurd
    140 Moriel Schottlender
    140 Mukunda Modell
    140 Nick Wilson
    140 Nik Everett
    140 Niklas Laxström
    140 Nuria Ruiz
    140 Oliver Keyes
    140 Patrick Earley
    140 Pats Pena
    140 Pau Giner
    140 Penguin
    140 Peter Coombe
    140 Philippe Beaudette
    140 Quim Gil
    140 Rachel Farrand
    140 Rachel diCerbo
    140 Ralph Torres
    140 Renee Bracey Sherman
    140 Revertasaurus and Awesome Possum
    140 Roan Kattouw
    140 Rob Lanphier
    140 Rob Moen
    140 Robert Miller
    140 Rory
    140 Rosie Lewis
    140 Rummana Yasmeen
    140 Runa Bhattacharjee
    140 Santhosh Thottingal
    140 Sarah Rodlund
    140 Sati Houston
    140 Sean Pringle
    140 Sherah Smith
    140 Siebrand Mazeland
    140 Siko Bouterse
    140 Smriti Gupta
    140 Stas Malyshev
    140 Stephen LaPorte
    140 Subbu Sastry
    140 Sucheta Ghoshal
    140 Tighe Flanagan
    140 Tilman Bayer
    140 Tim Starling
    140 Toby Negrin
    140 Tomasz Finc
    140 Tony Le
    140 Tracy Beasley
    140 Trevor Parscal
    140 Vibha Bamba
    140 Victor Grigas
    140 Victoria Shchepakina
    140 Walter Gómez Segura
    140 Wikimedia Foundation office camera shy.png
    140 Winifred Olliff
    140 Yana Welinder
    140 Yuri Astrakhan
    140 Zack Exley
    140 Željko Filipin
    165 Erik Möller
    165 Gayle Karen Young
    165 Geoff Brigham
    165 Katherine Maher
    165 Lila Tretikov
    165 Lisa Seitz-Gruwell
    165 Luis Villa
    166 Garfield Byrd
    166 Sicore, Damon 2014.jpg

    There's definitely some room for improvement here. It also looks like we need to fix Damon's alt text. --MZMcBride (talk) 08:43, 21 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Is HR going to work on this? Nemo 05:58, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


    Funny, it seems HR wanted to dissipate any doubt about WMF being able to learn from mistakes. No worries, I confirm the message was loud and clear! --Nemo 05:58, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]