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Latest comment: 11 years ago by Nemo bis in topic Users stripped of rights?


Hi Gyoung,

I'm updating the Staff and contractors page and noticed that you have an account on this wiki, please can you create your userpage with a short biography and other introductory information about yourself and the work you do. (Feel free to look at other user pages for examples.)

Please let me know on my talk page when you have done this so that I can update the link for your username.


Thehelpfulone 17:32, 21 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Created a very brief stub. --MZMcBride 01:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Re: Response

[1] Thank you for your response! It was archived shortly afterward (for reasons unknown to me) and I wasn't able to respond to you before that. I think the changed wording sounds much better than it previously did. :) Killiondude (talk) 21:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Unarchived, by the way. --MZMcBride (talk) 17:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

User page

Hi. You seem to be using the {{user page}} template without actually using the template. Was this intentional? Do you want me to fix this for you? --MZMcBride (talk) 17:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Actually, I would love that and be very grateful. I'm still learning how to try to use these and help would be appreciated! Thank you! I tried to also implement the same thing on my en:wp gyoung user page and turned that into a bit of a mess. :) Gyoung (talk) 19:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
I believe I've done it for you properly - if you click on [2] you will be able to see a "diff link" to see what I've changed. The purpose of a template is so that you don't have to copy all that div coding all over your user page making it more difficult to edit it when you want to change a few things. If you now click on the edit link for your user page, you will see that it will be a lot easier for you to update to or change the text. The Helpful One 20:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
I rewrote some of the template. I'm still not in love with the design, but it's fine for mow. It shouldn't be too difficult to copy this template to the English Wikipedia and re-use it there. Maybe THO can help you with that. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Thank you!! :) MZMcBride, do you have feedback on the design? My hope is to tinker it to "good enough" to convey "who I am, what I do, how to contact me, and what I love about working for WMF" (the last box hasn't yet been included - I'm thinking across the bottom of the template...) enough that we can roll it out so all the WMF folks can have it on their pages so that when people click on names under "staff and contractors", it goes to a user page that has standard info on the top, and custom info on the bottom. Gyoung (talk) 26 February 2012 (UTC)
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?oldid=79482 is what the template looks like with an image. I think the "Contact me" box looks awkward with so much space toward the bottom and I think that the added space (below the job title) introduced by the image's height isn't the most desirable. It's a template, though, so it can be tweaked later as necessary. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:51, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Old job descriptions and job postings

Hi. There are number of old job descriptions and old job postings on this wiki (Category:Job Descriptions). Someone asked me to update Chief Technical Officer and I remembered that this was a larger issue that needs to be addressed. I imagine it's probably on your radar, but it'd be good to clean these pages up at some point. Either by updating them or by deleting them (or archiving them to Meta-Wiki, maybe). Or maybe just tagging them or moving them out of the way. Not sure what's best, but there's surely a good answer somewhere. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi MZMcBride! Agreed - this needs to be dealt with. I haven't had a chance to look at all these yet. Thank you for reminding me! Gyoung (talk) 16:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
Hi Gayle, there's also some more job descriptions in Category:Wikimedia organisation that need to be looked at. Best, The Helpful One 16:11, 21 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Users stripped of rights?

You've stripped a bunch of users of their user rights? --MZMcBride (talk) 02:22, 11 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I am. More specifically, I'm limiting admin rights on this wiki to Foundation staff and board members. You'll still be able to do everything a normal user can do, and if you have a particular project you're working on which brings with it a good justification for admin rights, I'm sure people will be happy to give you those rights for the duration of that project. Gyoung (talk) 02:53, 11 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Why the change? --MZMcBride (talk) 03:06, 11 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
We've been discussing this for awhile, and the thought is that it's ultimately the Foundation's web presence, not the community's web presence. A useful parallel to consider might be how userrights are given to staffers on the community wikis; they're distributed as and when they're needed for a specific task. In some cases this can be someone's job, in some cases this can be a particular project, but we try not to involve staffers overly in the administration of community work. I hope you're well! I'm heading out of town and will be unresponsive for a few days. Gyoung (talk) 04:16, 11 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

This feels like a slap in the face. You've seemingly directed the director of community advocacy to strip user rights from nearly every community member here, including every active administrator. This is juxtaposed with staff with administrators rights here who have literally never made a contribution to this wiki.

There is/was an ongoing cleanup project on this wiki (cf. Category:Proposed deletions). Can you please restore my administrator user rights here as well as Thehelpfulone's? Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Even though I have never been an admin on this particular wiki, I have to agree with Max—this does indeed seem like a slap in the face. I'm feeling a very important message here: community members are requested to take their hands off this wiki, and go away play somewhere else (even if they are acting in good faith, like MZMcBride and Thehelpfulone).
This being said, I am very much surprised to see MZMcBride even care about what happens next; man—you have been very clearly sent the message not to work on this wiki, because it's not appreciated, nor wanted. I'd just leave it to rot if I were you.
As a last point, let me just mention that your current crisis management is absurd: desysopping all community members and then going offline for a few days just only magnifies the go away, community message. I'd suggest that someone else takes over your role when you're away and deals with this situation. Tomasz W. Kozłowski 09:57, 11 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Note: Wikimedia:Welcome requires an update. --Nemo 10:39, 11 May 2013 (UTC)Reply