User talk:Philippe (WMF)

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Latest comment: 9 years ago by Keegan (WMF) in topic An important message about renaming users

Sidebar edit

Hi. This edit doesn't make much sense. You've moved the "Donate" link outside the "Support" section and into the "About Wikimedia" section. If there are issues with collapsed sections, those should be filed in Bugzilla or addressed to the appropriate party in order to reach a proper resolution. Moving things around to avoid Vector's stupidity shouldn't be necessary. --MZMcBride 19:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

For me, "Support" is automatically uncollapsed by default, so I'm not sure why Philippe is seeing it as collapsed. Cbrown1023 talk 02:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Odd... we checked during a meeting, and it was collapsed by default. But I'll double check and if it's not, I'll move that back. Philippe (WMF) 17:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Template:2010/Donate-now6 - ILS


I'm sorry if i messed up something at Template:2010/Donate-now6. If i understand correctly, we need to have our currency there. How can we add it? --Amir E. Aharoni 18:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Fundraising links

Currently Fundraising and Donate have different content, and the homepage links to both. Could you make the pages the same, or consistently point the links on Home to the current preferred version? Thanks,--Eloquence 21:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Yep. Philippe (WMF) 22:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, but what about the localized pages, as Сделать_пожертвование (used in Russian interface)? Also "Donation" links in Russian-language wikis linked to Global_Support/ru directly. Must be changed to WMFJA1/RU? --Kaganer 17:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Are canged (for Russian project/pages);) --Kaganer 18:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
PS: At least {{DonateLang}} template (available on Ways_to_Give/en page) should have links to the current fundraising pages.--Kaganer 17:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
PPS: Maybe Holding/JA1/en also should be redirected to WMFJA1/en? --Kaganer 17:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Thank you - he

the page is ready (no other changes) --Itzike 11:21, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hi Itzike - if you're speaking of this page: m:Fundraising_2010/thank_you/he then it's not quite ready. That appears to be an Israeli version of the page, which is great and would be fine for use at /IL. However, we still need a version of the page for non-Israelis. The one I linked above appears to have a donation link to WM-IL, which wouldn't be correct for non-Israelis. I'm going to reset the status to proofreading so it doesn't get accidentally published. Philippe (WMF) 11:50, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
the text is 100% translation of the English version. you can just fix the donation link to your correct WMF landing page. --Itzike 11:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
I'm sorry, but I'm still not sure that's correct. For instance, the PS seems to address events in Israel? Philippe (WMF) 12:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
How you want us to separate the IL page and the HE page so your team could use it? The meta have only one version of the page. --Itzike 12:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Well, chapters are responsible for building their own localized pages throughout this fundraiser - have been since the very first landing page of the year. We provided access to the Foundation wiki so that you could do that. Then, you only need to submit to us one version: the non-chapter version, where the text should exactly match the source text. It looks like we already created the Israeli landing page from what you gave us, so all we need is the meta version. Philippe (WMF) 12:22, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Fix. enjoy :) --Itzike 13:11, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Philippe (WMF) 13:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sustaining corporate donors

Why was Sustaining corporate donors deleted? --MZMcBride 22:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Becuase they were moved to Template:Benefactors.  :) Philippe (WMF) 22:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
Some of the listed companies were moved back to Template:Benefactors, you mean? I don't see a reason for the older revisions to be deleted. Is there one? And the current page, if it's dead/replaced, should be a redirect to Benefactors, right? --MZMcBride 22:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes, some of the listed companies (those who had not expired) were sent back to the template. The reason for the older revisions to be deleted is, quite simply, because I was asked by my boss to delete the page while he was reorganizing things slightly. And yes, the page should be a redirect, but I haven't gotten there yet. I've been answering these talk page notes. :) Philippe (WMF) 22:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply


Hi. Who is User:Jmayall? I looked at Staff, m:Wikimedia Foundation contractors, and, but didn't see anything matching the name. --MZMcBride 05:27, 29 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hi MZ. Jmayall is Jeanie Mayall - she's a generalist in the HR department. She was announced here. I'm not certain why she isn't on any of the usual haunts, but I'll ask and hopefully have an answer. Philippe (WMF) 06:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Talk:Work with us

Hi. I reverted your archiving of Talk:Work with us. Most pages here aren't ever archived as they don't build up enough threads to warrant it. Or if they do, it takes years. In this case, there was activity... today(!) in both threads. And there are only two threads on the page, so I can't imagine why it would need to be archived already. Archiving should also be done with copying and pasting to keep page histories intact. Thank you. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Tax info on Home

Hmmm. Regarding this edit, the EIN in particular looks really tacky. Surely there's a more appropriate place for this.

And I think the headquartered part is a bit... Wikimedia is a global movement. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:20, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'm inclined to largely revert your edit and simply make "nonprofit" a link to Tax Deductibility/en. The "501(c)(3)" bit is already mentioned on Home, this tax info is irrelevant to nearly all visitors and is already covered elsewhere, and the new language is just generally problematic and awkward. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:31, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hope you won't revert it. As you may have guessed from the edit summary, it was a legal requirement from the general counsel. Frankly, it's one that I don't feel strongly about but I've seen the advice from counsel to him, and then his directive saying that it has to be there. Please talk to him before reverting it. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 09:03, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Okay, I e-mailed Geoff. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:24, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Great, thanks, MZ. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 22:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Admin process

Dear Philippe, Happy New Year!

What's the current process for appointing [non-staff] admins? How about a section on Babel for proposals, that any bureaucrat can act on? There are lots of admins in theory but few are log active.

Could we include "posting a userpage" as part of the admin-creation process? Lgruwell, Jlohr, Jmayall and JTrias need userpages.

Warmly, Sj (talk) 05:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi Sam,
The process is lightweight - express a need and show a use case and that you have clue, and I hand the bits over.
Because of the realities of raw html on this wiki and the fact that it is the public face of the WMF (the closest thing we have to a corporate website), I'd be hesitant to set up a process that's doesn't include at least a staff-side sign-off. However, we've been notoriously generous with that sign-off.
But luckily, I believe that Jay is doing some real thinking about how to manage this wiki in a scalable and sustainable way, so I'll ask him what he thinks.
As far as userpages, I couldn't agree more and will followup with those folks. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 09:28, 4 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hello Philippe, I don't have particular opinions here but I was a bit confused: I had misread that "staff-side sign-off" as a restriction of +sysop to staff members. More careful reading (or the section below) shows that's not what you meant, but if the final rubberstamping belongs to staff then I think you should just remove bureaucrat status to non-staff: it's not like we make heavy use of bots or import here, so in practice that's the only function of bureaucrats, and ensuring that all bureaucrats really are bureaucrats would allow us to be less convolute and use clear, simple guidelines (like Sj's "that any bureaucrat can act on"). --Nemo 15:19, 26 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Adminship for Thehelpfulone

Hi. I'd like to recommend Thehelpfulone for adminship on this wiki. I believe you're already familiar with his work here, but if you need me to elaborate on this request, I'm happy to. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 22:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ping. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:19, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, I've been out ill, and haven't had a chance to look at this. I don't have an issue with it. Let me just double check a couple of things, and I'll get it going. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Eep, sorry about that. Illness has been going all around the country, with a particular focus on cities, of course. I don't know anyone at my office who hasn't been sick at least once in the past two months. I hope you're feeling better now. :-) Thanks for looking into this. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Just a note for the record that we made him an admin. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 08:24, 8 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Strange blocks

Hi. You made JTrias an administrator on this wiki. I'm concerned he or she doesn't fully understand how to administer a MediaWiki wiki:

(Removed accounts); 18:44 . . JTrias (talk | contribs | block) removed the account of "Akapoor (talk | contribs)". Duration of the removal: 2 hours ‎(User no longer works for the Wikimedia Foundation)
(Removed accounts); 18:30 . . JTrias (talk | contribs | block) removed the account of "Jorm (talk | contribs)". Duration of the removal: 2 hours ‎(User no longer works for the Wikimedia Foundation)
(Removed accounts); 17:56 . . JTrias (talk | contribs | block) changed block settings for Pete Forsyth (WMF) (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 2 hours (account creation disabled, e-mail disabled, cannot edit own talk page) ‎(User no longer works for the Wikimedia Foundation)

Can you take a look at this, please? And perhaps nudge this user to make a user page? --MZMcBride (talk) 00:23, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

As soon as I noticed these blocks I sent Julie an email to follow up. Turns out Brandon and Amit were on a list of accounts tagged to be blocked so she's checking it out (and I also made her aware that the expiration means that the system automatically unblocks the account after 2 hours and so can login). Thehelpfulone 00:54, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi - I have also spoken with her about this. It's just a mistake. She's been talked to.  :) Philippe (WMF) (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Disabling $wgBlockDisablesLogin here

Hi Philippe, after some discussion at User:Legoktm/Liberation regarding this setting (which is primarily intended for private wikis), I've filed a bug request to disable this setting as bugzilla:44473. If you could comment there it would be appreciated. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 17:49, 29 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Proposed deletions

Hi. I'm working on cleaning up this wiki a bit. I've proposed the following pages for deletion. I'm notifying you as you're listed in the page history. Without objection, the pages listed below will be deleted in about a month. Thanks for all of your work here. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

C&D letter to WikiPR

Philippe, are you planning to fix the confusion between Wikipedia and Wikimedia visible in that letter? odder (talk) 09:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

It appears that Patrick Gunn wrote that letter, not Philippe or Matthew R. Given that the letter has presumably already been sent, I'm not sure there's much to be done now, except perhaps educate Mr. Gunn. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
The letter was written on behalf of the Foundation, so I'm assuming they had a look at it before it was sent. They should have noticed and fixed that confusion. odder (talk) 18:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
While "they" did, I was not part of that they. MZ is correct - Patrick wrote it, but while working with Luis and/or Geoff. Not I. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 20:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
It doesn't change the fact that someone from the Foundation should fix the confusion. odder (talk) 21:10, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
if you came to me with bad code, I would point you to engineering and send them a note. I've done the same thing here... Sent legal a note and pointed you to them. I personally am not going to make the fix. It's not my area of expertise. I recommend that you speak with the relevant party. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 21:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Re: recent account creation

Hi. This is trivial, but the most recent convention for usernames would've made it "TFlanagan (WMF)" instead of "Tflanagan (WMF)" (cf. Special:Log/newusers). The whole naming scheme is a mess. :-( --MZMcBride (talk) 03:13, 20 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

I agree. The naming convention is a disaster, and I say that as someone whose name is out of convention. :-) In the interest of not making staff remember a dozen different versions of their usernames, based on when their account were set up on which wikis, and what naming convention was en vogue then, my typical process is to ask them their username on the public sites and match it. Therefore, he's User:Tflanagan_(WMF) on enwiki, so I matched it here. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 03:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

An important message about renaming users

Dear Philippe (WMF),

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

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