User talk:GVarnum-WMF/Archive 1

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Categorization

Hi. Re: this edit and similar, I'm not really sure I understand the purpose of this category. I read Category:Maintained by Advancement department. Is this some team at the Wikimedia Foundation staking a claim to a bunch of pages on this wiki? Does this team really want all of these pages? Some of them are pretty old and probably no longer used or needed. Is this team now committing to keeping these wiki pages accurate and up-to-date? Should this team now be a point-of-contact for questions about these pages? If so, who specifically should be contacted? --MZMcBride (talk) 23:39, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

@MZMcBride: Thank you for checking. It is for tracking purposes and as the description mentions, is for active and historical maintenance. It is not meant to imply that they are actively maintaining it and does not impact maintenance practices. --GVarnum-WMF (talk) 23:51, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

While you've added yourself to the "flooder" user group, it looks like many of your edits are not being marked as bot edits, for what it's worth. Looking at https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0&limit=500 currently, I only see one edit with a little 'b'. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:48, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

@MZMcBride: Strange - I will take a look. Thank you for heads up. --GVarnum-WMF (talk) 23:51, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users

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Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:15, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

"Volunteers" and "community members"

Since we were talking about language the other day, I thought I'd float this here :)

I've started to notice places where community groups are referred to as 'volunteers' in a context that excludes anyone working as staff or contractor of a movement entity, or in some other professional role. In most of these places, the relevant discussions apply to all community members, not just that subset of the community.

• This language is generally used by WMF staff, in communication with parts of the movement, and the implication is that the speaker doesn't consider themselves or their colleagues in the mentioned group
• This creates an unnecessary self-imposed barrier between parts of the community
• The distinction is fuzzy, as thousands of people have at one point been staff or contractors, gotten grants, or worked as liaisons within other orgs.
• For newcomers, the distinction can convey the sense that [volunteer] community members are less experienced than [staff of some org] community members, or than [external contractors]. Whereas in practice, some of the more experienced developers, architects, legal scholars, arbitrators, analysts, non-profit execs, data archivists, db optimizers, regional experts, &c. are part of the non-staff community.

I wonder whether we've unintentionally been exacerbating arbitrary divides rather than taking those opportunities to reaffirm that we're all part of a shared community of creation, empowerment, communication, and defense of our shared work.

While there are a few places where we explicitly mean the 'volunteer' subset of the community as a whole, what do you think about using 'community member' where possible? Recognizing again that as you note not everyone uses the same style guide. SJ + 00:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Spam at foundation wiki

Hi GVarnum-WMF, to my surprise I see that since recently everyone is now free to open an account at the foundation wiki and to create a user page. Unfortunately, this privilege will attract cross-wiki spammers and you got already some of them like User:Byblos coffee, User:MD Mainul Islam Mohin or User talk:Cà Phê Khoa Nam. Trying to be more open is laudable but I am not sure whether it is the best approach to have another meta wiki when at meta you have already the necessary policy pages and patrolling admins. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 08:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Home lacks tl:languages and localization in vain

@GVarnum-WMF, hello, would you grant us translators to publish our work on foundation.wikimedia.org/Home please ? I wish Talk:Home and my query be answered by you or some body in charge.
As facilitators from the Governance Team are working so hard to discuss UCoC Enforcement at local community, I could support them in any way, but IMHO, I am afraid that the message we give to our users is that, the official site, or the landing page Home not being offered in local languages contrasts to how endeavours for i18n is respected anywhere among the Wikimedia wiki, and to avoid such leg-pulling, I translated that page.
Yes, it is quite heartbreaking to see that the link I attached herein has been put into ja over a month ago, but yet shown in en only /: If the procedure involves Board decision, it would be practical to plainly message it at the top of the page. Cheers, -- Omotecho (talk) 11:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC) / --Omotecho (talk) 11:53, 20 February 2022 (UTC) sorry, forgot to add section title.

WMF edit

@GVarnum-WMF: I go through random section and I see every pages are protected. I can't edit on here. Help Me. Scadrode (talk) 06:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Scadrode: Only staff has edit rights on content pages, but you can use talk pages and translate content in other languages. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:13, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ameisenigel: I want to be an Translator, how to apply for Translator ? So I can Translate pages without any barrier. Please guide me. Scadrode (talk) 09:23, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Scadrode: You can just choose a page from Special:PageTranslation, visit that page and click on "Translate this page". --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ameisenigel: I'm talking about this [1] what is this ? Scadrode (talk) 11:45, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Scadrode: This is just for getting notifications about pages that should be translated. --Ameisenigel (talk) 16:47, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ameisenigel: Can i signup as a Translator ?[2] Scadrode (talk) 19:09, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Scadrode: Sure, but that is Meta Wiki. This is not available for this wiki. --Ameisenigel (talk) 20:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Cookies statement

Hello, the french page about cookies statement had been vandalized : https://foundation.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cookie_statement/fr but I can't undo this, can you check please ? -- Speculos (talk) 08:43, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

I've replaced it with the original English, for now, as there was no earlier French version to revert to. I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:18, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Update to Policy:Universal Code of Conduct/sl

Hello, GVarnum. Could you please copy the content from User:TadejM/Sandbox to Policy:Universal Code of Conduct/sl? I have implemented some grammatical corrections in the translation. --TadejM (talk)

Template:Disclaimer for translation

Hello. I would like to tell you a few things. In your earlier edit, you changed the text in the template to the italic type, which is problematic for people in some areas. In some countries in East Asia, such as Japan, or other regions, the type is not used or common. It is because the italic type is a typeface used for handwriting in Western languages. Please understand that some areas do not use this. Also, if you don't mind, please improve the template so that it can display text switching types. Thank you. --TKsdik8900 (talk) 06:43, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

@TKsdik8900:Interesting - and good to know - thank you! I will make note of that and also work to improve the template over the coming weeks. Thank you for your constructive feedback - it is greatly appreciated! Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 06:45, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Spam to delete

User:Cssq is a cross-wiki vandal. I'm posting to your talk because you are one of the only few admins who have been active in the past several years. Koavf (talk) 20:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you @Koavf for the notice. I have gone ahead and blocked them here as well. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 06:49, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Possible translate import problem

Hello Gregory. We think there may be a problem with the translate, import, or PageMigration extension losing licensing information. (c.f. meta:Special:PermaLink/25261954). I'll open a ticket for the issue.

Can you provide exact step-by-step directions for how you are making edits such as this one? Notice that while it certainly says you made the page, it suggests it came from elsewhere, but does not include any attribution of where it came from.

Thank you! (Please ping on reply). Xaosflux (talk) 11:55, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Could you please answer this? It's now being discussed at m:Steward requests/Miscellaneous Pppery (talk) 16:38, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

It was done using Translate extension's import feature. The licensing and overall shortcomings of that feature are being discussed by the Language team within the Foundation - and some work is already underway at T329043. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 00:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

: @Xaosflux: as requested. Pppery (talk) 15:58, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

UCoC and AGF

Hi Gregory. I asked a question regarding the UCoC's AGF provision in June at Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct#AGF and haven't received a response as yet. You seem, judging by previous discussions on that page, to be the WMF's go-to person for answering UCoC questions. Thanks, Heavy Water (talk) 01:39, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Bump Ottawahitech (talk) 21:40, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Can someone please help me access some of my account Bebrrecado (talk) 05:00, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Translation admin

Hello. As a global sysop, I pop by occasionally to delete vandalism and sometimes, some translation pages are involved and it'll be ideal to delete the whole page as blank or no having a translation. As such, is it possible for me to get local translation admin rights so I can cleanup useless translations easily?. Minorax (talk) 04:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

@Minorax: Yes! Happy to do so - thank you for your help! I have also requested help from Stewards and working on Phabricator to get this access for all Global sysops moving forward. Thank you for reaching out. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 22:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for giving me the translation admin right here. However, I'm facing issues where the pages cannot be deleted as I'm not allowed to edit pages due to namespace restrictions listed at Special:ListGroupRights. Is it possible for you to discuss with the team to add the edit-legal right to the TA user group? Minorax (talk) 05:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes - I think we can make that work. Although it should allow you to do those actions as a sysop. Do we need to change something so Global Sysops have actual sysop status on this wiki I wonder? But I am looking into this and appreciate your help on this wiki and with sorting out root of this problem. We DO want Global Sysops to have these edit rights on this wiki to support your ability to help us, it is just a matter of sorting out how to make all of that actually work given unique setup of this wiki and general setup of global rights. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 17:54, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

We may be able to get rid of edit-legal at some point - but for sake of functionality over purity of code - I will likely just go ahead and expand the rights of the two edit groups, sysops, and translate admins to have same basic edit abilities. From what I can tell, Global Sysops should have the rights on this wiki that would in theory void need for edit-legal rights (as intended anyway) - so still need to verify what is happening before I implement anything - but I think I am coming to a basic understanding of the problem. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 18:46, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

@Minorax: These rights are now setup if you could please test on your end if that resolved the issue - it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 21:58, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Yep. Seems to be working now. Thanks! Minorax (talk) 03:00, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Request for edit rights

Hello, Gregory Varnum. I noticed some bad errors in the By-laws here. The Article numbers and subsections are messed up in the outline layout of the bylaws. Can I have edit rights to correct them? It is possible that the Bylaws were created with a script or macro... I peaked at the source. If that is the case, perhaps you would prefer someone familiar with the script to make the changes instead of me. In that case, I suggest doing that soon. It is your call, of course! FeralOink (talk) 03:22, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello @FeralOink, at this time, edit rights on this wiki are limited to authorized Wikimedia Foundation staff accounts. However, I have gone ahead and made some changes to that page. Please let me know if you see any additional errors, or feel free to utilize Template:Edit request on the talk page of the page you would like to request an edit be made to. Thank you for pointing this error out! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 22:16, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Gregory Varnum. the bylaws look MUCH better now! Two other things I noticed: First, there might be a missing paragraph or section. I left a comment describing it on the bylaws talk page. Feel free to delete my comment if I overlooked something obvious. Next, from Article III, Section 15 onward, the alphabetical sub-headings aren't broken out by line. They ARE broken out in every (well, all those that I quickly scanned!) sub-heading prior to Section 15 of the bylaws. For example, see Article III, Section 13 that has (a) and (b) on separate lines.--FeralOink (talk) 16:22, 18 October 2023 (UTC)